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Reply to Storage Question on Fri, 23 Oct 2015 20:21:02 GMT

@MattSpeller said: @BRRABill said: Do we even know if there is a supported 2003 to 2016 migration? Maybe you have to go to 2012 first anyway? We looked at all the options for upgrading 03 to 12 - tl;dr...

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Reply to Storage Question on Fri, 23 Oct 2015 20:28:13 GMT

@scottalanmiller said: You don't want to do an in-place migration anyway. Especially not over that number of versions. Yeah I was thinking more the AD migration. Definitely going to start anew.

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Reply to Storage Question on Fri, 23 Oct 2015 20:29:06 GMT

@scottalanmiller said: I would put that at "pretty risky". Because it might not work, or because Server 2016 won't be out until after July 2016?

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Reply to Storage Question on Fri, 23 Oct 2015 20:29:11 GMT

@Dashrender lol yes, though you un-tl;dr'd my post

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Reply to Storage Question on Fri, 23 Oct 2015 20:29:59 GMT

@BRRABill said: @scottalanmiller said: I would put that at "pretty risky". Because it might not work, or because Server 2016 won't be out until after July 2016? Because I doubt that it will work.

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Reply to Storage Question on Fri, 23 Oct 2015 20:30:23 GMT

@MattSpeller said: @Dashrender lol yes, though you un-tl;dr'd my post I had no idea what tl:dr meant until 5 seconds ago...

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Reply to Storage Question on Fri, 23 Oct 2015 20:33:51 GMT

@scottalanmiller said: Because I doubt that it will work. I was thinking about that, still in the mindset of using Server 2012. You are right upgrading to 2016 from eval probably would be sketchy at...

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Reply to Storage Question on Fri, 23 Oct 2015 21:32:43 GMT

Worth doing to learn it before going to production with it. But plan to blow it away and do a fresh migration when the time comes.

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Reply to Storage Question on Sat, 24 Oct 2015 05:01:56 GMT

@BRRABill said: @scottalanmiller said: Because I doubt that it will work. I was thinking about that, still in the mindset of using Server 2012. You are right upgrading to 2016 from eval probably would...

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Reply to Storage Question on Tue, 27 Oct 2015 19:07:41 GMT

Just to let everyone know, I have not died. I spent the weekend not thinking about servers, or server OSes, or SSDs. I thought about beer, and how terrible most of my fantasy football teams are. And...

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Reply to Storage Question on Tue, 27 Oct 2015 19:11:47 GMT

@Jason said: You can't switch from a Eval to a full version on a DC, member servers it's fine it's just a DISM activation command. But once promoted to a DC you can't have the machine ID changing....

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Reply to Storage Question on Tue, 27 Oct 2015 19:14:08 GMT

@BRRABill said: But if I wanted to go with 2012R2, couldn't I just put a valid (aka purchased) retail product code into the activation section? Not if it's already a DC. You switch the licensing and...

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Reply to Storage Question on Tue, 27 Oct 2015 19:15:08 GMT

Terminology is an issue here. 2016 is currently in beta, not evaluation mode. If you get a 2012R2 Eval from MS, While I've never done it, I'd be damned surprised if you couldn't add a valid license key...

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Reply to Storage Question on Tue, 27 Oct 2015 19:15:43 GMT

Getting into an Open License is probably the way you want to go anyhow - you'll need the server license and CALs too.

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Reply to Storage Question on Tue, 27 Oct 2015 19:15:51 GMT

@Jason said: Not if it's already a DC. You switch the licensing and you kill the DC and how AD works. You can do that on Member servers but not DCs. In addition to this thread saving me a lot of money,...

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Reply to Storage Question on Tue, 27 Oct 2015 19:17:03 GMT

@Dashrender said: But then the question is, where do you get the downgraded key from? If you don't have any 2012 R2 servers now, you don't have any keys. So either you'd have to buy yourself into a...

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Reply to Storage Question on Tue, 27 Oct 2015 19:17:33 GMT

@Jason said: @BRRABill said: But if I wanted to go with 2012R2, couldn't I just put a valid (aka purchased) retail product code into the activation section? Not if it's already a DC. You switch the...

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Reply to Storage Question on Tue, 27 Oct 2015 19:21:03 GMT

@BRRABill said: Why in heck would they not allow that? AD security is based heavily on the IDs of the computers, changing that breaks it.

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Reply to Storage Question on Tue, 27 Oct 2015 19:20:18 GMT

@Dashrender said: @Jason said: huh - If I have time this week I think I'll stand up a new 2012 R2 server, make a new domain using only the eval codes to confirm this - no promises on time though....

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Reply to Storage Question on Tue, 27 Oct 2015 19:23:12 GMT

@Jason said: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj574204.aspx?f=255&MSPPError=-2147217396 I'm not sure what I'm suppose to see at that link. I don't see anything that says a DC can't be...

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Reply to Storage Question on Tue, 27 Oct 2015 19:36:14 GMT

@Dashrender said: @Jason said: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj574204.aspx?f=255&MSPPError=-2147217396 I'm not sure what I'm suppose to see at that link. I don't see anything that...

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Reply to Storage Question on Tue, 27 Oct 2015 19:41:17 GMT

@Jason said: @Dashrender said: @Jason said: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj574204.aspx?f=255&MSPPError=-2147217396 I'm not sure what I'm suppose to see at that link. I don't see...

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Reply to Storage Question on Tue, 27 Oct 2015 20:01:19 GMT

It seems as though you can install another DC, then replicate, then demote the EVAL one. But I think I'll just go with not doing that.

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Reply to Storage Question on Wed, 28 Oct 2015 14:50:37 GMT

@BRRABill said: It seems as though you can install another DC, then replicate, then demote the EVAL one. But I think I'll just go with not doing that. Yes, it wouldn't be a functional AD if you could...

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